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In this episode of Edge of NFT, host Richard Carthon is live from Manila, Philippines, at the Amplify Web3 AI event with Riza Utile, Ian Utile, Professor Bates, Kate Hancock, Dan Robbins, Giu Comia, and Mulan. Richard and guests dive into the unique format of Amplify Web3, explore the intersection of AI and blockchain, and discuss the event’s mission to bring education and digital innovation to the Philippines. They share their personal journeys, the impact of AI and Web3 on communities, and the remarkable initiatives each guest is pursuing to bridge gaps in tech, education, and opportunity. Learn why the Philippines is becoming a hub for tech adoption and how Amplify Web3 AI aims to foster growth and connectivity.
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Key Topics Covered:
- Web3 and AI’s Role in Emerging Markets: How Web3 and AI technology can bridge economic and educational gaps in the Philippines and Southeast Asia, a region rich with tech-adoption potential.
- Amplify Web3 AI Roundtable Format: The innovative structure of Amplify Web3 AI, where speakers and attendees participate equally, fostering open discussions, personal storytelling, and thought leadership in Web3 and AI.
- The Evolution of Attention Live: Ian Utile shares the vision for Attention Live, a platform that lets content creators mint, protect, and monetize their content with Web3 technologies, emphasizing decentralized control and ownership.
- Presidential Lifetime Achievement Awards: Recognition of Professor Bates, Kate Hancock, and other esteemed guests for their dedication to community service and advancing education in emerging technologies.
- KOL Influence and Community Building in the Philippines: Insights from KOLs like Giu Comia and Mulan on the role of Key Opinion Leaders in educating and advocating for Web3 and AI within Filipino communities.
- Global AI Council’s Mission for AI for Good: Dan Robbins explains GAC’s commitment to free education and the responsible development of AI, highlighting its initiatives across six continents, including the Philippines.
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Episode Highlights:
- “People here are craving opportunity, and Web3 can open those doors. When we create Web3 events in the Philippines, we’re educating and empowering future leaders.” – Ian Utile
- “AI is a tool, just like PowerPoint or Excel. It’s about enabling us, not replacing us. As long as we keep the human element, AI will enhance rather than diminish our capabilities.” – Professor Bates
- “The beauty of Amplify Web3 AI is that everyone has a voice, from students to executives. This isn’t just a conference; it’s a community.” – Riza Utile
- “We believe the Philippines has the potential to be a global tech hub. Filipinos spend the most time on social media, and there’s a strong appetite for learning and innovation here.” – Dan Robbins
- “I started with a $20 business that grew to seven figures using AI. Now, I’m here to give back to my community and provide opportunities to people without traditional educational backgrounds.” – Kate Hancock
For the full transcript, see further below.
People and Resources Mentioned:
- Attention Live – The Web3 and AI-powered platform that allows creators to mint, protect, and monetize their content.
- Global AI Council – An international organization focused on AI education and AI for good, with chapters worldwide.
- Professor Bates – Known as the “Godfather of Tech,” an advocate for democratizing AI to benefit underserved communities. (No specific website link, but searchable via LinkedIn or Google as "Professor Tim Bates AI")
- Amplify Web3 AI – An event platform and community founded by Ian and Riza Utile, dedicated to advancing Web3 and AI conversations in emerging markets.
- NFT NYC – Major Web3 conference where the concept for Amplify Web3 AI was inspired.
- Internet Computer Protocol (ICP) – A blockchain technology that Mulan worked with, helping expand the Philippine hub for DFINITY.
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About Our Guest:
- Riza Utile
Riza Utile is the Executive of Attention Live, a groundbreaking platform designed to revolutionize content streaming and monetization using Web3 and AI technology. With a background in business English teaching, Riza is passionate about fostering communication and digital innovation. In partnership with her husband Ian Utile, she aims to empower communities and elevate conversations within the tech and blockchain space, particularly in the Philippines.some text - Ian Utile
Ian Utile is a seasoned entrepreneur and co-founder of multiple tech companies, with extensive experience in Web3 and AI event production. As the driving force behind the Amplify Web3 AI event series, Ian is dedicated to reshaping the way global leaders discuss and innovate in the tech world. Known for his role as an entrepreneur-in-residence at Twitter's innovation hub, Ian has a deep commitment to making cutting-edge technology accessible and impactful for communities worldwide.some text - Professor Bates
Known as the "Godfather of Tech," Professor Bates is a cybersecurity expert and professor at the Institute of Technology and Innovation at the University of Michigan. His dedication to making AI an accessible tool has earned him the prestigious Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award. Professor Bates is committed to bridging the digital divide, advocating for AI as an educational tool, and championing inclusive tech education in underserved communities. - Kate Hancock
Kate Hancock is a serial entrepreneur, e-commerce expert, and philanthropist. Based in both the U.S. and the Philippines, she is passionate about empowering communities, especially women, through her businesses and volunteer work. Kate recently received the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award for her extensive community service, highlighting her commitment to providing opportunities for growth and development, particularly in the Philippines.some text - Dan Robbins
Dan Robbins is an influential member of the Global AI Council (GAC), dedicated to promoting AI for good and free education. Based in the Philippines, Dan plays a key role in GAC’s mission to democratize AI access and knowledge across the globe. His work is driven by a commitment to fostering inclusive AI communities and encouraging innovation and tech literacy in emerging markets.some text - Giu Comia
Giu Comia is a leading Key Opinion Leader (KOL) and content creator in the Philippines. With a background in music and entertainment, Giu transitioned to Web3 to advocate for blockchain technology and its transformative potential. His charismatic personality and community-focused approach have helped him establish a prominent voice in the Filipino Web3 space, where he inspires others to explore blockchain and crypto opportunities.some text - Mulan
Mulan is a versatile entrepreneur and Key Opinion Leader in the Philippines’ Web3 space. With ventures in both Web2 businesses and Web3 projects, she has a diverse background that includes community building, venture capital, and growth strategy. As a former growth lead at Internet Computer Protocol in the Philippines, Mulan’s mission is to leverage Web3 technology to fill gaps in the local market and create opportunities for emerging tech communities.some text
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Full Episode Transcript:
Richard Carthon : Hey, everyone, Richard Carathon here from the Edge Event Team. We are live in Manila, Philippines at the Amplify Web 3.0 AI event. I have two amazing guests that are the whole reason that we are here today. We have Riza and Ian Utile. Thank you both for being here with us. Yeah, happy to be here. Thanks for coming. Of course, you know, we're happy to be proud to meet our partners with this event. And it's been awesome in preparation up to this event, now being here and meeting all the amazing people at this roundtable. It's been an incredible event. Before we dive into everything, I first want to get some background on both of you. So Riza, we'll start with you.
Riza Utile: Yeah. Again, my name is Riza Utili. I am the executive of Attention Live. And before being part of the Attention Live, I'm a business English teacher for two decades. And yeah, I'm the wife of Ian.
Ian Utile: Yay for me. So I've been doing Web3 and AI events both. since 2017. So I was the entrepreneur in residence at the innovation hub inside Twitter. So I launched the future of AI, launched the future of blockchain, the future of tech. called Run the Future. And so those string of events that happened was basically, I was so curious. I've co-founded eight companies, mostly tech companies, some agencies. And so I was in, I used to be an entrepreneur residence in between things. I'm like, okay, what's the next thing I wanna do? I have all these great friends I've made. I'm just gonna start these tech events and start bringing all these brilliant people to learn. So that is what has evolved into what we're doing today, which we're calling Web3AI. I've had other events I've been able to co-produce that, you know, some people know about, like NFT NYC, I've been involved since that launched with Jody Rich and his team, and then Elton Devin from OpenSea. So I like events. For me, events are kind of a broken model. Getting people on a stage for five or 25 minutes, getting people in panels for 20 or 45 minutes, having 99% of people in the audience not really wanting to pay attention to hear the same thing or a service pitch or a product pitch. It feels broken to me. So what I started doing is this type of roundtable summit, which you've been able to participate. It's been great to have your voice be a part of it. And I've done these here now in Manila, but Singapore and New York and London and California, I just like bringing global leaders together to have conversations about big ideas, you know, big ideas around automation technology, like the Web3AI industry and around different sectors of society. So I'm an entrepreneur. I like to gather people together. I think this is a format I enjoy the most. And the reason I do it is it gets me to market research for our product company called Attention Live. It lets me build great relationships with people in government and business around the world and so it's been a great way it's super natural and organic and not like focused on advertising and marketing it's just hey it's gathered together and naturally I get to talk about the product that we've built at Attention Life.
Richard Carthon : Well that is incredible and you know I want to break down both the event that's happening today in Attention Live. And I first want to go with Attention Live because we spoke back at NFT NYC and I had a really cool conversation with Jayu and he interviewed us. And it was like a full circle moment where I got to interview him today at this event and which all our building is really incredible. So I would love to just unpack that a little bit more first.
Ian Utile: Yeah. Our product at Attention Live. It's on its fourth iteration, so I'll call it 0.4. I've been in tech long enough to know not to call things. It's a consumer product, but it feels close to that. We built it for the enterprise. We had a bunch of multi-billion dollar institutions that were using our tech. Basically, it allows you to live stream to your own social media accounts. while you mint and protect your content, and then you can monetize as well. It's kind of automate the ability for monetization. So we invented three things. We patented those three ideas so nobody could stop us from doing it. We're not going to stop anybody else from competing with us, but we wanted to have the freedom. to basically leverage Web3 as a foundational infrastructure, this media idea of streaming and protecting and monetizing and then AI as kind of an interface for it all. And so we believe that billions of people will use this tech. It'll be a way for content creators like yourself to be able to flourish and your community to also flourish along with you. And it's a fully decentralized approach. Again, you stream on your accounts. You mint your own tokens, whatever kind you want, in your own wallet. And you're in control of the utility and how you use it. So basically today is our launch of our consumer product. It's one of the reasons why we did the event. We wanted to transition from an enterprise product to a consumer product. And us being able to gather together the way that we do, what happens in our event is that people end up saying, they end up expressing the essence of who they are. while they're explaining big ideas or asking complicated questions. So what happens in our events like this is the majority of the content is said by really important people for the first time and the first way they ever said that stuff. And now we can take product and basically allow them to broadcast that through their own socials and mint it and protect it so that they have the commercial rights to that content. And if they choose to, they can also monetize it as well.
Richard Carthon : That's incredible. And the thing that I like about the app a lot is throughout this event, you have many screens that are showing the user interface and how people can interact with it. And it's very seamless. I can tell that you've been an entrepreneur in residence. And this is multiple iterations because you probably got multiple feedback from people who have used this and everything else. And so it's very intuitive. And just to speak to the event, you know, what I've enjoyed about this event, as opposed to others, you go to a lot and you go and you listen, you go there to hear from thought leaders. And that's it, you listen. And like, maybe you have two seconds to talk to them, then they're gone. But here, it's a roundtable, everyone has a voice, people can come who's not necessarily at the roundtable can come and step up, ask questions and join in the conversation. And then also stick around and speak with the speakers and build that relationship. So reason, why did you structure this in this way? And like, what was the brainchild of making this come to reality?
Riza Utile: All right. Actually, here in the Philippines, we've never had this kind of event. And most of the events that are related to blockchain, crypto, AI, Web3, mostly they only put people on the stage to speak and people who are listening are just, okay, I will just listen and not really learn and they cannot even express what they want or can ask questions. With this type of event, Ian and I created this because we want to hear their voices. We want to hear their thoughts, their opinions. We also want to hear what's in their mind and what they want to learn. and what they have learned that they can share with the people. So that is why this kind of discussion is really very important for most Filipinos. And this is one of kind, like, I've never seen this kind of event. before. We actually did this May 11 this year and since then we heard from them that oh I really enjoyed a lot this event so for sure this September 14 we will support you. So they asked for more so that is why me and Ian we have thought like okay Filipinos are very thirsty and hungry to learn more about blockchain because here in the Philippines actually the word blockchain or the word crypto means scam. So we want and as you heard the word AI also is becoming dirty word for universities and that is why we're here to educate people and to give people more information about blockchain, crypto and AI.
Richard Carthon : I think you all did a superb job of doing that. This is a unique format. I personally have not come to a conference that has been put in such a way. Not only do you get to hear these thought leaderships, people giving a keynote in five minutes and then people being able to respond, but you also get to hear the personal side of things. I got to learn your story on how you've been in this for 20 years and how AI even replaced you. That was wild. And I don't think, unless me and you had sat down and had a one-on-one conversation, I would have never learned that about you. But now, a lot of people learned that about you, and they could respond to it. And even with you, Ian, again, to hear your story, and also just getting to prop up and praise others, and letting you talk about others and their journey and how they got to where they are, and this beautiful intersection of Web3 and AI, it's been a really cool experience. And I think you all should be very proud with how this has all come together.
Ian Utile: Yeah, I am really cultivated here. I have invested like a lot into the KOLs here. So we have a core team of about six KOLs and then kind of a broader team of a couple dozen. Obviously, practically for our product, it matters in that we have a product that's made for content creators. Here, social media influencers are called KOLs, Key Opinion Leaders. So there's always a practical reason, but when I started kind of mentoring these young people a couple years ago, like we had an enterprise product. I didn't know if we would get to a consumer product, but I just really, I love Filipinos. I love the culture here. I came here the first time in 2008. So I've been coming for 16 years. My wife is a Filipina and I'm wearing a Philippine pin. And so for me, I just thought, you know, I want to do something here. So I started building relationships before we knew what we wanted to do. Then we did on May 11, we did kind of a prototype, had a few dozen KOLs together in just one circle. Instead of today, it's kind of built rows of a circle. And I just facilitated with Risa this conversation. So I think it's been important for people to recognize that you don't have to do things the same. So for you as a global international technology ambassador, you are all around the world seeing traditional Web 3.0 AI event. You're like, wow, this is way different. But for Filipinos, this is also not just different in your regard, but every event I've ever been here starts half hour, 45 minutes late. We start on time to the minute. That's very unusual. Almost every event I've ever gone to goes late, goes over. We've been ending on time at every single break. And one reason I did that is I want to try to show the local culture that you don't have to follow the patterns of what's done. It's OK to actually show respect to everybody and their schedule. Another thing that is normal here is everything's kind of, I say, pomp and circumstance, right? It's all about getting the media here and getting the politicians here and the big rewards and the big trophies and the big ribbons and the big this and the ribbon cutting. And I have no problem with any of that. But today, we got three people at the event got a award a Lifetime Achievement Award from President Biden and Vice President Harris. It's a federal award. It was done through the Global AI Council which was a very nice thing for the three guests. Now, we could have had certificates, we could have had all sorts of things, trophies and pins and medals, like that would have been fun to do. But we chose not to do that because, again, I'm trying to show the local leaders just because this is the way things always are doesn't mean it should be this way. Because a lot of the time when this environment does events, what ends up happening is they do events and it's like they gather people together so they can show them how look at the politician that's with me and look at the thing we're doing and smile for the media and like I didn't want to do any of those things I want to do something totally different and I really want to make sure that whether it was a professor or an educator or a KOL evangelist or an entrepreneur that is working on their first or fifth company or an executive that runs a huge corporation, regardless of what the person was, that they felt like they were in a room that they belonged, that their voice mattered, that their question would be at least attempt to be answered, and that they had input that people would give them their attention when they wanted to share that input.
Richard Carthon : Well, I think that was accomplished and I want to take a quick moment to say that Ian was 1 of those recipients. So congratulations. Thank you so much. And we got the opportunity to speak with the 2 other recipients as well. And it's been an overall amazing experience. And 1 of the things that I wanted to just take a moment for you both to reflect on as we wrap up here is like, obviously, you had a lot of goals for what this event was going to be. Do you feel that was accomplished? And for those who are listening and they're like, oh, that was awesome. I wish I could come again. Why the Philippines? Why potentially for round two of this? For myself, this is my first time ever coming here. I'm super excited to potentially come to round two, right? So why would someone else who's listening to this want to come and participate next time?
Riza Utile: Number one, it's because Filipinos really need to understand more about the blockchain technology. So that is one thing. And also, many Filipinos really, you know, look up mostly americans all right when it comes to blockchain and they all they not only want to learn blockchain inside our country it's because most filipinos who are into crypto are actually engaged with american you know that type of job or projects. So they want to learn more about that. So we are not only learning the blockchain here in the Philippines, but we want to learn the blockchain internationally. So if more foreigners to come in the Philippines and we will have the round two or the part two of this event, that would be very great. In fact, today, there are still many Filipinos sending text messages to our project manager that if they can still come. That's why we have decided that we will accept walk-ins. So for those who want to join us, that we're not able to register to the last minute so they can still come for them.
Ian Utile: We have kind of a small space here at the Westin. The ballroom's not massive. So we actually stacked our attendees. So we invited 1240 attendees. We have a staff of about 60. And so we stacked our attendees to be able to come in rotation. So there's like 100 people that come every hour or so. And so what's happened throughout the day is core leaders have stayed and participated most of the day, like the three of us, where others have kind of come and gone. And they only intended to be here for an hour or two. So that's also been kind of a nice thing is that we had a lot of people come in a small space. As far as why the Philippines? 26 million humans in the Metro Manila area. Over 100 million, about 115 million in the country. Southeast Asia, about 600 million. This is the second largest country. It's the number one country in the world for time spent on social media. 11 hours a day per person.
Ian Utile: It may not be a good thing, but it is a thing. They adopt consumer technology very fast. If there's a good consumer product built, whether it's Web3 gaming, whether it's an AI bot, Whether it's a telegram game. If there's a good piece of technology built this community can go from 10 to a million really really lightning fast. They're the number one in the world for searching for AI. They're the number one in the world for applying AI tools. to certain jobs. They've passed a bunch of laws and have built a bunch of different government institutions to try to become the epicenter of both Web3 and AI technology. Number three in the world for blockchain wallets. A third of people own digital collectibles or as we call them NFTs as you have on your head. And so there's a number of reasons why, as a businessman with a consumer product, it makes a lot of sense to invest heavily my time and energy and marketing and branding and relationships and partnerships in this region right here. So for me, it's a no-brainer. As far as for others, whether media companies like yours or some of our friends that have other products, service companies, it's a very attractive place to be able to build relationship and take products and services to market. So we think that Web3 AI also facilitates that. We do intend to do more events. Almost all of our attendees have joined our Telegram group and we have 100 plus chats that go by every day. So I think we're almost at a thousand people on the telegram group. And so that is also a way that we can just maintain that energy. And because we have this core group of eight organizers, Reese and I are just two of eight, and then another, you know, over dozens, KOLs that are kind of an important part of it. We have the infrastructure which we can maintain energy even after the event.
Richard Carthon : It's incredible, and everything that you both said makes a ton of sense to me. You know, sometimes you got to go to a place to really see it and feel the energy of what that encampuses. And I feel like this event did a great job of doing that. So great job to you both. For people who are listening to this, what are ways that they can connect with you and potentially be a part of future events and Attention Live?
Ian Utile: Yeah, this event is at Amplify. web3.ai on all socials, including Telegram, as I mentioned. The website, amplifyweb3.ai, would be a way to kind of keep in touch. And then Attention Live, A-T-T-N-L-I-V-E on socials, or A-T-T-N-dot-L-I-V-E. Our product is free, so if you go to Attention Live, you can sign up for the product, use it freely, you connect your MetaMask or your coinbase wallet or your okx wallet or bitgit or wall connect then you can mint on any blockchain we have polygon ethereum vase blockchain and you can mint 721s 735s i think your audience might know those things are. We can do one of ones or one of many. Any utility you want, you can mint one of ones and one of many at the same time on the same or different blockchains. We may actually have the most useful NFT tool created in the world. We just don't think of it as an NFT tool because we have open AI baked into it for text to image inside of our system with your own account, and a bunch of other things like live streaming to YouTube, et cetera. So I would encourage people to kind of stay in touch with the event, Amplify Web3 AI, to use the product, attention live. And we'd love to see people thrive using the product and participating in our event.
Richard Carthon : Excellent. Well, thank you both. And I appreciate y'all having us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Richard Carthon : Hey, everybody. Richard from Edge of NFT here, and I'm live here at Amplify Web 3 in Manila, Philippines. And I have an amazing guest with us. We have Professor Bates, who has been crushing it this morning at the roundtable, giving us a lot of insights into the world of all things AI. And you are a professor at the Institute of Technology and Innovation at the University of Michigan. So thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you for having me here. Of course. Well, I know I kind of teased it up, but you are really adamant on how AI is a tool that should be used and not seen in a lot of other negative light. So just give us a little bit of taste of what you've been discussing so far.
Professor Bates : Well, like I said, it's a tool just like PowerPoint, Excel, or any other tool that we use from a technology standpoint. I started off when I'd go all the way back to the 80s, and you look at PFSWrite, which was a word processor. You look at typewriters, which were typewriters. We used to write manuscript. Typewriter turned into a tool that helped us write faster. We went to PFSWrite from a typewriter. That helped us what? Write faster and gave us spellcheck. You know? Fast forward to today, we have Word, and we have Grammarly for the last few years. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to say I'm a whiz kid at grammar, because I'm not, you know? It's like, no, I write something up, and I'm like, oh, man, what the heck? My mom would go crazy, because I come from a family of educators, English. And I'm the only one that walks around saying things the wrong way, and they're always correcting me. But that comes from my dyslexia, my ADHD, and everything else that's in my brain. And I'm like, well, when do I get a chance to really express the way I feel and how I can put the message out there? Gen AI is that tool that helps me do that. Absolutely. It helps a lot of people out there do that. Gen AI, when you look at how education system has been, the 20% has been leading for a long time because they can fit that mode that you know, society wants us to fit in. The 80%, we've watched, you know, fail, become labor, do everything except excel, because they can't fit, you know. You know, some people I know go to college, they're like, oh, I gotta get that piece of paper. They can't afford to, what do you call it, take the class three or four times over and over again, because, you know, we're not all rich people, you know, but those that can, that's that 20%. So I go back to that 80% with AI, That's the tool that is needed by the 80% to kind of bridge the gap, you know, democratize things so that they can understand the way they need to understand. Absolutely. I put together an AI, just a couple of, well, I've been putting it on for a long time, but this one AI I created called Tie. And it woke me up even more. Just a few weeks ago, I had kids in the local community around Flint that came in from Boys and Girls Club. They were like all, you know, hard on me, like, no, we don't want to learn no computer crap. We don't do computers. The girl's like, I ain't doing that stuff, you know. And the moment they talked to Ty and it went like, what up, though? They were like, What? That's an option? That's an option? They're like, it's talking to me in my lingo. Yeah. And I try to get people to understand, that's the problem with even universities and schools. Yeah. They all try to squeeze us in this 120%. And I'm like, well, if the 80% was so dumb. and not smart and can't be educated, how are they surviving? They survive with their own lingo. We have that throughout the country, throughout the world. And so AI helps with that.
Richard Carthon : It helps with bridging the gap. And one of the things that you brought up that I think is really important is that not only is this just another tool that can be used, it also is a way that people can utilize this to get a lot further ahead and it's things that have been used for a long time right so gaming so people for npcs and everything else uh even like the concept of you saying back when you used the calculator the world was afraid that it was going to make you dumber yeah and now no one's going to question should you use a calculator or not so in that same moment this is a new tool, AI, that can help to further bridge a gap in education that a lot of people have?
Professor Bates : Absolutely. It's like what I tell people all the time is AI is not here to replace anybody. It's here to enable us. And as long as mankind continues to put the human in the loop, AI will be fine. That's the only thing that scares me is that you're going to have someone out there that says, you know what, I want to make an AI that does everything and knock the human out of it, and it's just going to go all by itself. That's not what it's about. PowerPoint doesn't work by itself. Excel doesn't work by itself. None of those tools that we've been using all these years work by themselves. They need human heart, brain, soul into them to put out anything. You can use PowerPoint and pull out a template from PowerPoint. If you turn that PowerPoint in with just some words on it and no heart and soul, your teacher, your job, career, everybody will be looking at you like, what's up? But if you take that PowerPoint you know, a template and put your heart into it and your knowledge into it, when you present it, people are like, oh.
Richard Carthon : Now I get it.
Professor Bates : That's what AI is. You know, it can always Google and pull information out, but it's up to us to basically analyze that information, you know, and make it make sense.
Richard Carthon : And I want to talk to that heart and soul for a second because one of the things that happened today is that you got recognized for the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award for all the community service you've been doing over the years. I think to be recognized for this, you have to do over 4,000 hours worth of community service, which is incredible. And so tell us a little bit about like some of the different projects that you've done over the years. Like you just kind of talked to the one that you did in Flint, but you know, Why has AI been able to be an instrumental tool in the community service that you've been doing?
Professor Bates : Because it allows me to move a lot faster. I can reach a lot more people faster. I created a chat GBT bot that's called Ty. And it was like, basically, how do I want to reach a lot of people? I want to put information there so people can, when they ask me questions, oh, you can ask Ty. If Ty can't answer it, come and ask me. It's easier for them to be able to get to me from that standpoint. The other thing is most people don't know what they don't know about technology. Our people are always afraid of technology. And it took me a long time to really realize that this is my life, but everyone else, when they see a computer or a cell phone or whatever else, they run the other way. Three years ago, I put together a program called Unreal Basecamp. That base camp took 10 kids from high school, college dropouts, and some that didn't even go to, you know, GEDs. We taught them in six months how to use Unreal, create business applications, as well as business plans, and they did a pitch in front of everyone. Wow. And that wasn't even with AI, but it dawned on me when we did that, that people walk around with a cell phone and a tablet and they don't know the things that they can do. They look at it like it's a TV. You know, you grow up watching TV, you never know the magic behind it. And so we have a whole society of people that are looking at the cell phone and the tablet the same way. At Lenovo, when I was there in that program, I got each one of those kids a laptop. And I almost went to tears when they were looking at me saying, what is this? They had never touched a computer. And I'm like, wait a minute, touch a computer? When I was in middle school, we had computers in the school. When I was in high school, I had computers. What happened? And it was all about making things really so easy that it's transferred to the next generation of like, oh, It's just there, but I can't do this. And we changed their minds around that. They're all like, could start companies now. Most of them are working at, some of them are working at GM, some of them are working at Lenovo, internships, and they were making some 70, 80K. That's awesome.
Richard Carthon : That's a generational thing. wealth of like a transfer of power and knowledge that they can then transfer to others and keep benefiting their life. And one of the things I appreciate about being here at Amplify Web 3 in Manila is there's a lot of students here, a lot of university kids here that are learning in addition to a lot of the executives that are here. How has your experience been so far at this event and how the conversations have been?
Professor Bates : It's been heartwarming because people are running up and asking me questions that, you know, even questions I didn't think would be asked. But at the same time, it makes me feel good because people want to learn. I like to be around environments or people or organizations that are tenacious about questioning things. And our society, not just in America, but around the world, we've gotten to the point where we don't question anything. We just do. We follow, follow, follow. And this event here is like, what I'm seeing is like, with Ian, he's like, no, no, no. I want everyone to engage. And that's what I'm all about. In my classroom, I'm about engaging. You know, when the students, some students, was like, oh, what's the policy? I'm like, I'm changing my class policy. And they were like, What's the policy going to be? How do I make an A? Because that was one of the things the dean was interviewing me. He says, Tim, you're going to run into the students that just want an A. And they want to know how they're going to make that A. And I'm like, I'm not about the A. I'm about the knowledge. And so my policy changed to 70% of my class is talking. And the students look at me like, what do you mean talking? I'm like, we're going to conversate. We're going to have a conversation around the subject matter. If you can walk out of my class knowing what I know and knowing how to apply cybersecurity terms, technologies, and how the events affect the society or businesses, I've done my job. But if I sit here and test you A, B, C, and say, you know, you know that word, I haven't done my job. I'm sending out the same people, type of students that they were sending to me when I was in the corporate world. And I'm like, okay, I got to spend, what, another two years and train you? Corporate world has changed because they're moving just as fast as everyone else. And they're like, hey, you go to school, you come out, you should be able to Hit the ground running. I'm not saying you need to be able to be a CEO or a CTO or a CISO, but you need to be able to hit the ground running and using your brain to kind of come up with that critical thinking of, hey, you guys have been doing it this way. I learned such and such. Why don't we try it this way? That's the employee I wanted to have.
Richard Carthon : Oh absolutely and it's cool that you're resonating that that resonated with you and you're teaching that in your in your classes but also here like that really is the vibe just being in this roundtable people can present uh their thoughts and ideas and people can respond and even listen to the different frameworks but um you know it's been a joy to be able to just hear you speak on this and to get all this knowledge but for those who are listening to this right now they're fired up they want to learn more about what you have going on how they can how can they connect with you how can they keep up to date with what you have going on
Professor Bates : Well, you can always Google the Godfather of Tech, and you'll find me from that standpoint. But if you really want to get into my knowledge, I publish almost regularly on Medium. I do try to follow things on LinkedIn, and that's one of my main jams, because I've been there since the beginning. But Medium is where I post all my knowledge.
Richard Carthon : Awesome. Well, you're here from the Godfather of Tech. Professor Bates, thank you so much. Thank you, man. Well, what's up, everybody? Richard from Edge of NFT here live in Manila, Philippines. We are at the Amplify Web 3 conference, and we've been having an amazing time. I am here with Kate Hancock, who recently received the Presidential Lifetime Achievement Award. It is amazing to have you.
Kate Hancock: Thank you. Honored to be here.
Richard Carthon : Of course, well, you work on a lot of different things and obviously there's a lot that goes into receiving this award, over 4,000 hours worth of community service. So tell us a little bit about yourself and all the things that you do.
Kate Hancock: Yes, so I'm Sarah Entrepreneur. I actually have a company here in the Philippines. We have a few boutique hotels and a company in the U.S., media and e-commerce. So I'm very honored for this award. Definitely I've been doing a lot of volunteers work, really impacting mostly in the angle of helping entrepreneurs. helping them scaling or people that run startup don't know what to do. And that's what we've been doing for the last five years. And I'm also heavily involved in another nonprofit, the Entrepreneurs Organization, where I'm doing a lot of volunteer works and traveling the world, helping them shape their mission. So it's been a fun ride as well.
Richard Carthon : Extremely. And the things that you're working on are very important, especially to aspiring young entrepreneurs and helping them set a solid foundation. So with the work that you've done, what has been some of the rewards that you've seen from working with some of these young aspiring entrepreneurs?
Kate Hancock: I think when you talk with founders and people that really have this dream, you learn and you see yourself like, oh my God, I've been there. As you have that conversation or mentoring them, you learn so much by listening and what they're going through. It's two ways. you helping them, you learn from their experience as well. So it's kind of a really good use cases. And it's good to have, you know, you kind of remind yourself, as you know, it's so hard to run a startup, right? Scaling it to above, let's say, seven figures, that takes a lot of years. So having the right strategy and having the right mentor and mindset is really needed.
Richard Carthon : Absolutely, and helping to provide that access and information helps move the needle so much faster. But being able to go back and forth from the U.S. here to the Philippines, what has been that impact of being able to both be in both of these places, but then also to make sure that people here are getting the resources that they need?
Kate Hancock: Yeah, absolutely. So I was born and raised in the Philippines. And believe it or not, I actually started a company in the US for $20. I scaled it to seven figures in less than 12 months. So I scaled it to an eight figure company utilizing AI and technology. And now this is my give back to my Philippine community that I can build a company where I can help, you know, get them employed, utilize and, you know, develop leaders is so important for me, especially women. So I'm really happy that 80% of my employee actually don't have education, which is most company like you need to have a college degree, especially in Asia. It's a big thing. You can't even get a job. But for me, if you have the grit and the hard work, I'm going to give you an employment opportunity. And I have a great team because no one would ever give them a chance. And if you put their culture in place, then you're always going to win.
Richard Carthon : That's incredible. And again, we can't just beat by that. $20 into a seven-figure type of company utilizing AI, and then bringing it back so that people who don't necessarily have a college education still have the opportunity to have a good paying job, and then utilize AI to help them get to the next level. So using tools like this and being event where there's both Web3 and AI, you know, why did you decide to be part of this event? And what do you think people here will be learning while attending?
Kate Hancock: Well, for one thing, I mean, Ian is such a great person. It's so hard to say no, right? Like, I think this really aligned with my values as far as really helping spreading the world, how they can utilize the technology so they can earn and make a living with no capital. Look, not all of us have access to capital. It's so hard. Even in the US, we can't get capital. I think spreading the right information to people who really need it and then they can make their own company or you know, if they already have a company, they can scale it because they have the right information. And that's the reason why I'm here.
Richard Carthon : Which is great. And I've already learned a lot from the conversations that are in there for those who aren't here with us. And it's like a roundtable type of environment where there's tables in between. You have people sitting at each one. And there's a five-minute keynote that people can speak on it and add a lot of insights. And Kate's been doing a great job of adding some insights. So Kate, obviously, you're going to come here and meet a lot of other amazing people building in the space. What has been your initial, I guess, feedback to what you've heard so far from the speakers?
Kate Hancock: Yeah, I think I really love those thought-provoking questions that makes you think, like, oh, how am I going to, like, initially, I mean, you were like, how am I going to answer this? But the fact that you get a step back, like, OK, how am I going to craft these questions that's really deep in a way of how are you going to position yourself? And hearing from other input as well, it's really helpful. Even if you know a lot of things, you learn from, from a lot of people, no matter where they are in their status of their life, we all learn from each other.
Richard Carthon : Absolutely. How people frame questions and even how they respond to them, I think it's been really cool just to see how people think and process information. But Kate, it's really awesome to have you here. For people who want to learn more about you and your journey, what are ways that they can connect with you?
Kate Hancock: Yeah, absolutely. You can go to katehancock.com or go to globalcouncil.ai. We've been really spreading that AI literacy. So we're providing two masterclasses online. We have chapter heavily here in the Philippines. We have presence in the US, Canada, Africa, and soon in some of the Caribbean and in Europe. So it's really a nonprofit that I'm passionate about. Because look, I made money utilizing technology and anyone can do the same.
Richard Carthon : Absolutely. Well, thank you so much, Kate. Great to have you today. Thank you. Hey, everyone. Richard Carthon here with the Edge of NFT, and we are live here in Manila, Philippines at the Amplify Web 3 in AI events. And I am here with Dan Robbins, who is part of the Global AI Council. Great to have you here, man.
Dan Robbins : Great to have you. Great to see you guys. I mean, I think this is like it's been two, three years since we all seen each other. So it is what a wild surprise.
Richard Carthon : A long time coming, and so much has happened since then. Obviously, you're now part of this amazing group, the GAC. Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
Dan Robbins : Sure. So Global AI Council has chapters all around the world. I think we're in six continents right now. And we have two mantras, free education, education for all, and then AI for good. So those are the two things that we really focus on. The biggest one is the free education and education for all. which is a reason why we're here at this event.
Richard Carthon : Which is incredible, and there's a lot of really cool people at that intersection of AI and Web3 here. There's a lot of students, there's a lot of global leaders that have come in specifically for this. How's your experience been so far at this event?
Dan Robbins : Yeah, so it's great. I really like the unique format. I'm used to the conferences where there's a lot of panels, but you as the person attending don't really get to interact. You don't get to voice your opinion or your thoughts. But here, I like the fact that Ian has done something I've never seen before, where we all get to say how we feel, what we think. And this whole roundtable, it's something I've never been to before. I didn't even know existed. And so it's been a great experience to to really get to know people on a deeper level.
Richard Carthon : I agree, and it's been really amazing to be part of the conversation and to hear how people think about the space and how we can move things forward. One other thing that you got to do today that I thought was really special is that you got to introduce three different people to a special award, including your wife. Can you tell us more about that?
Dan Robbins : Yeah, sure. So there's a volunteer award that the U.S. gives out and they allow certain people to give those awards out. So luckily I was able to get approved to be able to give out this award. It's a lifetime achievement award from the President of the U.S. and it's something that is deep in my heart because I am all about volunteering. But I don't think we really reward people that do. It's like people, they volunteer in their life, but they don't go around talking about, this is how many hours I volunteered, or this is how my volunteer impact has been. So on one hand, we're making sure that we highlight those people, which today we're able to do three people that have given their life to service, to volunteering. And the other one is, they also want you to go out in the world in other countries and give these award out to Americans who are there. So I think the fact that we can show people here that, you know, what Americans are doing and that they are, you know, really big into volunteering and giving back to the world globally is something special.
Richard Carthon : I agree. I mean, one of the things that you said, over 4,000 hours worth of service, and the three people that got recognized today, all very well deserving, and it was cool that you were able to give that out here. But, you know, you come in a very unique situation where you are American, but you live here. Tell us about, like, what was that process like to move out here and be part of the Philippine community and just see the growth of both AI and blockchain out here?
Dan Robbins : Yeah, sure. So we came out here two years ago to help with the blockchain event here for the country. And after we did that event, I just realized there's so many people here that are really embracing the technology, really embracing to people from other places. So I never really felt like left out. I didn't feel like I don't belong. I really felt like, wow, I belong here. I love the culture, the people, the place, but the fact that they are so big into emerging technologies and so heavy into advancing that for themselves, I think is incredible.
Richard Carthon : I agree. It's cool to be part of this. It's my first time in the Philippines, and just to be around so many amazing thought leaders and people that are very passionate about this space is very refreshing. So for someone who has never been here and is thinking about, like, how do I keep expanding or look for places I would want to go and be part of a growing and emerging community, like, how would you speak to that?
Dan Robbins : Yeah, so great question. I think the best way is to look for events. I think events are really great places where you can meet people that are going to come in from all over. They're going to tell you about how it is to be there, how to live, besides just vacationing. But I really feel like going to an event, attending, you get to meet people locally, globally, you get to meet people who are doing different things. in that area, which opens you up to understanding what the possibilities even are. But that's what I would suggest. For example, last year we went to an event in Nigeria where my wife was speaking, because I never thought I'd even go to Nigeria. But now I feel like I have a deep connection there, and we're doing things there, and I got to really understand about the people. So I'd say attend an event.
Richard Carthon : I agree. A lot of all the events that we now get to go to is because we start at one, meet an amazing group, and then they're like, hey, check this out, check this out, and so on. And here we are today. But Dan, it's really awesome to hear a lot about you and what you have going on. But for people who want to connect with you and be able to learn more about GAC and everything else, how can they do that?
Dan Robbins : Yeah, so the best way, check me out on LinkedIn. Just look up my name, Daniel Robbins, D-A-N-I-E-L, Robbins. And we'd love to connect with anyone. Perfect. Well, Daniel, thank you so much for your time. Thanks, Richard.
Richard Carthon : Hey everyone, Richard from the Edge of NFT here. We are live here in Manila, Philippines at the Amplify Web 3 and AI event. I am here with Jiayu and Mulan. It's a pleasure to be with you both. Nice to meet you.
Mulan: Nice to meet you. Nice seeing you again.
Richard Carthon : Yes, thank you. You know, last time we saw each other was at NFT NYC. You did a nice interview with us, which was awesome.
Giu Comia : This time you're interviewing me. That's crazy. Full circle.
Richard Carthon : I got you telegrammed last time, but now let's ask you questions. So I'm going to tee this up first. We're here in Manila and both of you are both based here. You're KOLs. So just talk to us about a little bit of both of your backgrounds. So we'll start with you, Jai.
Giu Comia : All right. I'm Gio. Gio Comia. Of course, I'm a KOL in the Philippines, which means Key Opinion Leader, which is really used a lot in Southeast Asia because a part of being just an influencer and content creator, we do a lot of things, like building communities. We do speakerships and everything else. And yeah, that's basically it. But from history, I've been a content creator since I was a teenager, doing YouTube, and every platform like Facebook and other stuff. Commercials. Commercials. Yeah. I was also into entertainment here in the Philippines, mostly a singer, singing songs from the classics like Frank Sinatra, Michael Buble and stuff. And eventually, when the pandemic happened, I really transitioned heavy into Web3 because I saw the value and potential of it and what change we can make of this world with it.
Richard Carthon : Yeah, we got to showcase those skills today a little bit earlier. Yeah. Singing the Philippine National Anthem, which was awesome. So hopefully we can get some film on that later. Mulan, how about yourself?
Mulan: I wear many hats. So I feel like I'm Hannah Montana in that I have two lives. So in my Web2 life, I am an entrepreneur. I own a couple of businesses, including a bar in Pampanga where I was born and raised. And then on the Web3 side, I am a KOL alongside GU. I do silly videos on the internet. I create content. And I was also the former growth lead of Internet Computer Protocol, the hub here in the Philippines. So it started out as a two-man team. So it was just me and the co-founder, Sir Nelson Lumbres. From it being a small group, it became an official Philippine hub recognized by DFINITY. And then now I am still partly with them. I still create a lot of content for them, but I've moved forward with Eden International Holdings. It's both a venture capital and a venture builder. So not only are we investing in different projects and Wembley AI, but we are also now building our own projects, which are very, very exciting. And we're launching them this month. So hopefully you get to hear about them.
Richard Carthon : Absolutely, that's extremely exciting. Like you said, you wear multiple hats, which is incredible. So you have a lot of business skill and savvy, but also knowing how to connect with a lot of people on where they are. So let's stay there for a second. So one of the questions that comes up a lot when I speak to some different people is, how do I become a KOL, and what does that mean? So what does that mean to you, and what was the process for you to build the audience that you did?
Giu Comia : OK, being a KOL means, of course, to say the meaning of it, it's key opinion leader. It means you're a key leader. in the space in general. So what does that mean? So I'm someone that people see in public. Like you're a content creator, you're a speaker, or you're a community leader. So it doesn't have to be just one. It can be all of them, or it can be two, or whatever else. As long as you're doing your job of being someone of influence, someone of great power to influence a lot of people to be onboarded into something like Web3. So that's one thing I would describe KOL.
Richard Carthon : Great. And then Mulan, for you, with becoming a KOL, there's a lot of steps and things you had to do to build that audience. So what were some of those things that you did to help create that?
Mulan: This is a very difficult question for me to answer. Because when I started creating content, it was just about mainly embodying two responsibilities. It was not about, oh, I wanted to have this following. All of that followed, right? It was organic. To me, it was, again, embodying two responsibilities of being an educator, but also someone who is an ambassador of it. Because you can't educate if you can't believe or you don't believe in the advantages that it can bring, right? So for me, first, it was those two steps of me becoming, of educating myself, becoming the ambassador, and then now educating other people. And then once everything fit perfectly, and then the community started following, and then they started asking questions. It just built itself, as I would say. It was not an intentional thing that, oh, I wanted to go here or there. It was just a natural progression. And as with all organizations, as with everything that you're building, eventually gets a life of its own and then you just let it live and you let it dictate where it wants to go.
Richard Carthon : I appreciate that because I think there's a lot of people who want the end result without really thinking through the why in the beginning and for you it was the education, it was creating Entertaining content that was good for you, right? And yeah, it's like everything kind of came with it Now both you are ko wells here in the Philippines and we are at amplify web three So we're here with executives thought leaders Students all types of different people who are here to see that intersection between blockchain and web three How has your experience been at this event so far?
Giu Comia : Oh, this is such an awesome event. One thing I saw about this event is that everybody has a chance to speak out. Everybody has a chance to learn. Everybody has a chance to, like when you go to a WebTV event, right, there are panelists and there are keynote speakers. So you already know who's going to speak. It's already written there. You have to know the people to be a speaker, right? But with this event, this is the first time that I saw an event that everybody can speak. Everybody can be a speaker. So a normal student, a teacher, or any industry can raise their voice out with their opinions, with what they want to learn, what they want to know, and everything else. And I love this environment. I think we should have this more.
Richard Carthon : I like the conversations out of it too, it really makes people feel more involved and they can be part of that conversation. How about you for yourself, Milan?
Mulan: I feel like I'm dreaming. It doesn't feel real. Like this event feels like a dream. The entire year feels like a dream. I think all of this started us having the conversation of what if we create a Web3 AI event was birthed during NFT NYC. So we were with Ian Utile, the producer of this event, co-producer of NFT NYC. We were there and We were doing interviews for Attention Live, where you guys met, where we met. And then we were like, oh, this is too big for us not to bring to Manila. And then what if we don't wait for other people to do that? What if we do it ourselves? So we started flirting with that idea, and then it became this. So being here and just seeing other people experience what we experience, where we have to fly abroad just to experience and bring that here and making sure it's accessible not only to people who are already in the space but those who want to be in the space but don't know where to start. It's a crazy feeling and having Attention Live at the heart of it, a way where it's offering a new way of creating, exploring, and even monetizing your content at the very core of it is just an amazing thing to bring here in the Philippines.
Richard Carthon : So it's awesome to see that dream come true and you go from planning to now we're here, you have people from truly all over the world, like people like myself for the first time coming to the Philippines. Welcome! Thank you. I hope you like it. It's been awesome. I've met so many incredible people, I'm getting a lot of amazing new context, friendships, but also getting a lot of thought leadership, too. And one of the things I wanted to present to you both now to our audience, for a lot of people, they haven't necessarily come to the Philippines yet. And there's a very thriving both blockchain and AI community out here. So why should others come to the Philippines to come observe and be part of this growing community?
Giu Comia : All right. I believe everyone should really check out the Philippines because, number one, people here are really open-minded about Web2 and AI. Because the Philippines is a country that people are looking for opportunity. The Philippines is known as a third world country. So it's like people are craving to, what's the next big thing? How can I get out of this poverty? How can I get out of this challenging life? And a lot of Filipinos are open-minded into, where should I dive in? One good stat I would like to share with you is that the Philippines is number one on social media, especially on Facebook and TikTok. So with that potential, we really have a high potential on helping the web adoption that we're all craving for, right? So I believe companies should, if they want a lot of people onboarded, I believe they should start in the Philippines. That's what I can share.
Mulan: Yeah, for sure. I want to echo that. It's just that when we look at Web3 and AI and we truly understand why we're actually giving them time, why they're so important, it's because they are trying to solve problems, right? Trying to solve gaps in our current systems and whether that may be in the health sector and finance, we're trying to solve a lot of gaps. And in an emerging market such as the Philippines, there's so many gaps to fill. I think one of the speakers, Donald Lim, mentioned where we've always thought of the Philippines, with us being so rich in land, that we would be the king of agriculture. Yet we're not there. And there's a huge gap. There are many factors as to why that isn't the truth now, why that isn't true for us now. But now we have tech. that could make that a reality for us. So I feel like with us having so many gaps in the market, Web3 and AI should be the ones to fill that. And I think it would be crazy for projects now to not look at the Philippines, because if we try to pinpoint a milestone for both crypto, blockchain, Web3, I feel like everyone would somehow mention AppSync Infinity, and the boom started here. right, in the Philippines. And that while there are a lot of gaps that we noticed because of that, how it's unsustainable, I feel like it was the start of the conversation. We're talking about whatever it is we're talking about now because there was a conversation starter and it was that. And the Philippines was at the very heart of it. So it would be crazy for others to just ignore the impact and and the potential to grow with the market of the Philippines.
Richard Carthon : Well, with KOLs like you both, you're definitely helping to bring Web3 and AI on the map to the masses for the rest of the world to see what you are building here. I'm getting to see it myself being at this event. And it's really incredible. I know I'm paying a lot more attention to it. I know our audience will be doing the same. But for those who are listening to this and they want to be able to connect with you both and learn more, how can they do that?
Giu Comia : Well, you can connect to our social media accounts. So my social media account is at G-I-U, C-O-M-I-A. Once you go to my account, you can just directly message me there, or you can just email me from there. So that's basically it. Awesome.
Mulan: My wallet address is, you can send me Bitcoin, Ethereum, I accept everything, USDT, USDC. No, I'm kidding. If you want to be connected with us as a group, you can check out Attention Live or Amplify Web3 AI. And if you want to connect with me, go to my house. No, I'm kidding. You're welcome there. I could introduce Sinigang. Or you can just search on my social. Search for my socials. It's Modern Mulan everywhere. It's either Miss Modern Mulan or Modern Mulan. And that'll be me.
Richard Carthon : Perfect. All right. Well, thank you both. And glad you could join us. Yeah.
Giu Comia : Thank you so much. Welcome to the Philippines. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Great.
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