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In this episode of Edge of NFT, the team dives into the exciting developments of the Laos Network, highlighting its seamless NFT minting capabilities and vibrant community engagement at the live event in Austin, Texas. Key discussions cover the network's ability to tokenize real-world assets, streamline transactions, and foster a collaborative atmosphere for developers and tech enthusiasts.
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Key Topics Covered:
- Laos Network and Bridgeless NFTs: The episode highlights the innovative approach of the Laos Network in simplifying and securing the minting and trading of NFTs without the need for bridging, offering lower costs and greater flexibility for developers.
- Community Engagement and Events: A strong emphasis is placed on the active engagement and community-building initiatives of the Laos Network, including events like the Hacker House, which foster collaboration and networking among developers and enthusiasts.
- Integration of Real World Assets (RWAs): The concept of RWAs is discussed, showcasing the potential of blockchain to facilitate easier transactions and collateral use for real-world assets, advancing the capabilities of the industry.
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Episode Highlights:
- "So remember, the whole mission about Laos is that we want to offload transactions that people want to use Ethereum or Polygon or all these major networks. They want to use it heavily, and they are congesting it." - Toni Mateos (00:04:4900:05:00)
- "And it's not that we are inventing it. It's as we're borrowing a lot of technology that is already available on Polkadot. And, you know, putting it together in a proper way to scale an extra factor of, more or less 80 to a 100 from what we have today." - Toni Mateos (00:09:0300:09:16)
For the full transcript, see further below.
People and Resources Mentioned:
- Alun Evans LinkedIn
- Laos Network Website
- Toni Mateos LinkedIn
- Nacho Pujol LinkedIn
- Blockchain Game Alliance Website
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About Our Guest 1:
- Bio: Alun focuses on community building and networking at Laos. During the live event in Austin, he emphasized the importance of bringing together builders in Web3 to foster collaboration and innovation.
- Website:Laos Network
- Twitter: @alunthomasevans
- LinkedIn: Alun Evans
About Our Guest 2:
- Bio: Toni Mateos serves as the Chief Technology Officer (CTO) of Laos Network. He is responsible for explaining the technical aspects of how Laos operates, particularly its approach to offloading transactions from congested networks like Ethereum. Mateos has a background in technology and innovation, having recently received an Oscar for Scientific and Technological Achievement for his work in 3D audio technology, which was integrated into Dolby Atmos.
- Website: Laos Network
- Twitter: @toni_mateos
- LinkedIn: Toni Mateos
About Our Guest 3:
- Bio: Nacho Pujol is involved in community building for Laos Network, focusing on increasing engagement and awareness about the network's initiatives. He has been actively planning events like the one in Austin and working on strategies to engage communities in regions where Laos is less established.
- Website: Laos Network
- Twitter: @nachopujol
- LinkedIn: Nacho Pujol
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Full Episode Transcript:
Richard Carthon [00:00:00]:
Hey, Web3 curious friends. Today's special episode was shot live in Austin, Texas at NFT. Shout out to LAO's who sponsored this roadshow as part of a media partnership. Today's episode is jam packed with content from their side of it where we heard from the team, developers, and attendees at this amazing event. On today's show, you'll learn why the cofounder of Laos and the team members went all-in on building the universal layer 1 for digital assets across all blockchains, and find out why developers are excited to be building on top of Of network and participating at their hacker house. AI, good to hear from some community members about the experience with Laos and the event they attended. It's time to cue the intro.
Intro [00:00:37]:
Welcome to the Edge of NFT, the podcast that brings you the top one percent of web 3 today and what will stand the test of time. We explore the nuts and bolts of the business side and also the human element about web 3 is changing the way we interact with the things we love. This podcast is for the dreamers, disruptors, and doers who are pumped about this ecosystem and driving where it goes next.
Richard Carthon [00:01:05]:
Hey, everybody. Richard Carthon here with Edge of NFT, and we are live here in NFT at the Laos Network. Amazing side event that is focused on RWAs and a ton of other amazing things. I have none other than Alan who was previously on our show at NFT AI, and now we are doing more amazing content together. Of course, you learned about all the amazing things happening over at LAUCE. But as a refresher, I wanna bring you on to continue to tell people about all the amazing things that you guys have going on. So first, tell us a little bit about what's the purpose of tonight?
Alun Evans [00:01:36]:
Yeah. Tonight, the purpose is to really bring the community NFT, particularly the builders, like the people who are gonna be building the great apps we need in web 3. Try to bring them all into one room, get some networking flowing, get
Intro [00:01:48]:
some drinks, get some games, get some fun games to play.
Alun Evans [00:01:51]:
And the good thing about tonight's that, every point you score in one of the games, whether it's basketball or mini golf or Janney or whatever, each point is converted into Janney assets minted on Laos Kelley on Ethereum. So those are assets on Ethereum without spending any ETH. So it's kind of like having a lot of fun, thinking about networking, and also showcasing what LAOS can
Richard Carthon [00:02:10]:
do as well. Which is absolutely incredible. And I remember all of the things that y'all have building out this week, and you're telling me about the stuff, and I get to see it in real time. And so as a refresher for those who are listening, tell us a little bit about Laos, which you are ultimately going for, and, of course, how
Alun Evans [00:02:23]:
that's all incorporating into what's happening tonight. Yeah. So around 20% of transactions on Ethereum and other EBM chains, like, you know, Polygon and Arbitrum and so on, are actually mints. Right? So whether it's tokenizing a real world asset, creating in-game tradable items, or whether it's collectibles for NFTs, right, 20% of the transactions on Ethereum are those are the are that is that tokenization that I'm minting. And what Laoss does is offload all of that tokenization costs onto Laos. So you do pay gas, you pay with Laos token, but it's considerably cheaper than doing it natively on Ethereum. And the best thing is that the actual assets are 100% native Ethereum assets. They can be imported into your MetaMask, you can sell them on OpenSea.
Alun Evans [00:03:08]:
Everything as a user, you don't see anything different. But as a builder, you save a ton of money on gas fees, and you also avoid the problem with congestion, which is
Richard Carthon [00:03:16]:
a big problem with Ethereum and various other layer 2 as well. So super important, the congestion piece, especially when you start going out and doing real life use cases like this. If congestion starts happening, then it makes for a lousy experience. So I'm excited to be here, see this in real time, showcase some of what's happening in real time, and and and and however, all of this should flow seamlessly. So, of course, you have your team here. You have people coming tonight. What's your expectation for AI? And then just being a part of consensus. I mean, you got your cowboy hat on.
Alun Evans [00:03:42]:
Yeah. You're in Texas. I have a cowboy hat. Yeah. When in Texas, dude, the Texans. I'm really excited, where the event is horrendously oversubscribed, which is wonderful, which is great. It's tremendously oversubscribed. So I hope you all have a good turnout.
Alun Evans [00:03:55]:
And I'm really excited just to NFT some networking going, and see people doing it at the end. Hopefully we'll toss-up the amount of Ethan we saved in the minting of all the assets we mint. So that'll be a fun little, fun little stat to see at the end
Richard Carthon [00:04:08]:
of the result. Oh, definitely. And I'm sure it's gonna be a lot. Well, Alan, I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to keep learning about Laos and all the things that you're building. And, you know, excited to be like, dude, your hat and, like, just being part of this energy is so electrifying. Hopefully, everyone that's listening to this and when you watch this later, you wanna come to future events that Laos puts on because tonight's gonna be a Kriger. So, Alan, thanks for having
Alun Evans [00:04:28]:
us, man. Thanks very much. Appreciate it. Of course.
Richard Carthon [00:04:31]:
What's up, everybody? Richard here from Edge of NFT, and I got Tony here with me. He is the CTO over at Laos. And, obviously, a lot of amazing things happened tonight, and people are excited to learn more about the network. But Janney you kind of explain, like, how does it really work? Right? Like, how does Laos Network work at a technical level?
Toni Mateos [00:04:47]:
Alright. Yeah. So, it works. So remember, the whole mission about Laos is that we want to offload transactions that people want to use Ethereum or Polygon or all these major networks. They want to use it heavily, and they are congesting it. And it's very NFT. And as soon as you try to do some number of transactions, the network is congested and it runs down. Right? So we offload all those transactions to Laos.
Toni Mateos [00:05:10]:
At a technical level, maybe you want to compare us to or you could compare us to layer twos over Ethereum or that your mission is to scale Ethereum this way. But unlike them, what we do is we don't resort to bridges. This means that there's a number of benefits for that. It means that, first of all, users don't need to breach their currencies. They don't need to understand what a wrapped currency is or what a wrapped coin is. They don't need to migrate to another place. AI, a layer 2 is NFT another place. And they don't need to use heavily insecure patterns like bridges.
Toni Mateos [00:05:46]:
Bridges are really insecure. Most of the bridges, even in the major layer 2 zone Ethereum, are really insecure. Kelley there tracks all the security holes that they still have. And like that, if you use Laos to, you know, offload all your transactions, you're not using any bridge. You're using something that comes from Polkadot called universal location, which is basically a way to refer from a consistent consensus system to things that live on a different consensus system. It's been in use within Polkadot for years already. And now we are extrapolating that to, you know, join consensus systems that don't live on in Polkadot. So basically Ethereum, Polygon referring to Polka Dots, power chains like ours.
Toni Mateos [00:06:31]:
By doing that, the most important thing is users don't need you to even understand that there are laws involved. From their point of view, they're just receiving, let's say, NFTs in case you want to offload NFT mint. They're just receiving NFTs in their standard wallets on Ethereum, on Polygon. They just trade them with ETH, with Magic, with the standard currencies that they are used to. They don't even need to go through this UX hassle of bridging coins and wrapping and all that stuff. And at the same time, because we don't have any bridges involved, we don't have security holes. The entire security of our system Janney with Ethereum, for example, is the lesser of Ethereum and Polkadot. And this is huge.
Toni Mateos [00:07:13]:
I mean Yeah.
Toni Mateos [00:07:14]:
The security risk.
Richard Carthon [00:07:15]:
Oh, it's massive. So, a few things Josh, so how I took in all that information is that you basically took a massive problem that's in web 3 that's anywhere from 5 to 10 steps and made it one step, and you've made it very cost effective.
Toni Mateos [00:07:29]:
Yep. So cost is one of the big things, of course, if you wanna mint on Ethereum. But the second one is just the use case. I mean, even if you had 1,000,000 to spend on Ethereum, you wouldn't be able to do 100,000 in one day. With Laos, from day 1, you can do 1,000,000 per day on Ethereum. And this allows you to be in different use cases. It's not just about the cost. Right? I mean, you've got you want to tokenize every song in a catalog, your, you know, universal music, and you want to organize those songs, you can.
Toni Mateos [00:07:58]:
You want to give away, you know, 10 NFTs to every player that just unloads your free to play game, you can do it right away. So it's about building use cases where scarcity is not the main thing. And this was not possible before. It even goes beyond cost.
Richard Carthon [00:08:13]:
Absolutely, man. So, like, it's a beautiful thing when you're almost a layer 0, but almost like this thing that's on top of it that's blending everything beautifully together. And, I guess, cost effectiveness, fast, and the ability to scale up. My understanding as well is, like, as people want to potentially do more, Laos will allow you to scale up fast.
Toni Mateos [00:08:34]:
Correct. Correct. Actually, so right now, LAOS already Kelley. I mean, the transactions that LAOS can process are already larger than the transactions of all layer 2s on Ethereum together. Wow. From day 1. But over the year, and this, this is one of our main motivations also. Over the next year, we're going to scale way farther because we're gonna become the 1st power chain in Polkadot that we ourselves are gonna have to share.
Toni Mateos [00:09:00]:
Okay. Like, if 2.0 is promising all that stuff. And it's not that we are inventing it. It's as we're borrowing a lot of technology that is already available on Polkadot. And, you know, putting it together in a proper way to scale an extra factor of, more or less 80 to a100 from what we have today. So, yeah, we want to put all this throughput available to Ethereum, NFT, and all those all those AI.
Richard Carthon [00:09:21]:
That's incredible. Takes a whole lot of brainpower to figure that out. And, of course, someone that is running Janney Oscar, it only makes sense. So, like, I gotta drop in that gym. Tell us about how you won that?
Toni Mateos [00:09:33]:
Yes. So I received it very recently in February, actually, I was in LA, receiving an Oscar for an Oscar for its AI, like the scientific Oscar. It's an Oscar for Scientific and Technological Achievement. So after 12 years of us having brought to the cinema industry something that's called 3 d audio. Originally, it was 3 d audio. We had a start up. It was basically conquering the market. It wasn't going very well.
Toni Mateos [00:09:59]:
And Dolby Laboratories acquired us in 2012 and integrated part of what we had done into what's called Dolby Atmos. Dolby Atmos has conquered the world. It's amazing. It has Ethan and underestimations by Dolby itself, almost 1,000,000,000 people around the world. It's so beautiful. So we started that in 2,008 in a research center, you know, then a startup, etcetera, and eventually became so widely used. We're so, so proud. I mean, it's it's it's by a lot of people, and NFT it's been recognized by the Oscars Academy to, you know, as a
Richard Carthon [00:10:34]:
Huge recognition goes to the brainpower of all the amazing things Laos is building. So all those technical people out there, obviously, you wanna work with the Oscar winner and just all the awesome things that they have going on. So come join the amazing team that's behind Laos and be part of this community and keep making it even better.
Toni Mateos [00:10:50]:
Thank you.
Gerard Colomer [00:10:50]:
Yeah. Thanks, Artie.
Toni Mateos [00:10:51]:
Pleasure.
Richard Carthon [00:10:53]:
Alright. Richard Carthon here with the Edge of NFT. And next, I got Nacho with me with the Laos Network team, part of community building and doing a lot of awesome stuff to keep the network growing even further. So tell me a little bit about, you know, what are some of the current things that you have in place to keep letting the world know about all the things that Lyle has going on and ways to keep having the community be more engaged?
Nacho Pujol [00:11:15]:
So there's actually a lot of stuff going on. One the main focus for the past month was planning this event and a consensus here in Austin. We're very much looking forward to that. But at the same level, we were also working on a lot of other exercises, such as, seeing how to, engage in communities and in regions of the world that we're not so present. Right now, we have a big presence in Asia and Africa and Europe. And that was due to doing some activities with this quest board, apps such as Sealy, Galaxy and all that stuff. And now we're looking for KOLs to, kind of enter the latter market and as well as, other markets in Europe and South Eastern Asia. What we're doing to what we started doing, like, not a long time ago, to build more engagement NFT to have the community kind of, interact more with each other as we started doing AMAs.
Nacho Pujol [00:12:13]:
We are in a few communities. Shout out to BGA, Blockchain Game Alliance. They help us a lot. We are doing a lot of AMAs with other companies within the BGA. So we have weekly AMAs. invite some people over. We have some friendly chats, all different topics in the gaming and web three space. And that is bringing a lot of attention.
Nacho Pujol [00:12:33]:
Last week, we had one with over a 1000 viewers. So I was pretty solid. And also, it's a good reason to go and push a community where we're doing all this stuff. Like, hear our voices, see our faces. It's very important that they see that there are humans working on the project, especially in web 3. So that's kind of our main focus right now, to show that there's real people, after the project. Yeah.
Richard Carthon [00:12:57]:
Oh, absolutely. And, like, doing things like this, putting on this event, being here present at NFT, and and and and getting out and and about in a physical way, but also just with what you're doing with the AMAs and everything Kelley, letting people know that there's someone at the end of that and and receiving it and having something like this where people can now come and, like, really show their face, enjoy these things. Tell us about, like, when you're putting this together, think about how we create an event that not only rewards people for being part of our community, but shows our actual product and how it's being used. Like, well, how did you, like, or organize and put that together for what people can expect tonight?
Nacho Pujol [00:13:32]:
Yeah. So the first thing when we do these types of activities is they ask ourselves, who do we want to join this NFT? Or who do we want to attract? Like, who are we looking forward to to come to the community? So NFT on at some point, we started with, bringing the community over, like holders. And now we're aiming to attract a lot of builders. So we are creating these events around, how to build a successful Web 3 game, for example. How to add real utility to a game to incentivize players and not just investors or gamblers as we saw on the past bull run. So once we decide who we are talking to, we build the full AMA or activity around, okay, what we're gonna talk about is gonna raise the interest of that type of people. So we kind of do that, like, as a Carthon then and then we move on from that. Like, as you said, we are gonna go target or ask for, web 3 game to join if we wanna ask if we wanna invite, like, web 3 builders, like game builders to to come to this, but I may or whatever.
Nacho Pujol [00:14:43]:
So in the AI. Yeah.
Eathan Janney [00:14:44]:
No. It's a
Richard Carthon [00:14:44]:
good way of organizing it. And and even tonight, as we talk about games, there's different games that
Nacho Pujol [00:14:48]:
are people are gonna be able
Richard Carthon [00:14:49]:
to play and, and use that in real time. So as people are starting to, you know, work with and utilize Laos, what's been the community response? Like, how have you seen, some of the different interactions like the AMAs, get people to come and interact more with the Laos community?
Nacho Pujol [00:15:06]:
Yeah. That's awesome. It's not easy to keep the community active. In the end, there's a lot of communities out there and everyone chooses where to go and where to spend their time and they're gonna spend their time wherever there's a lot more stuff, like, where there's stuff happening. We've been working on a lot of things at the same time. So, when we invest time in this AMA stuff, we wanna make sure that it's constant and that it happens weekly, so that they see, AI, they know that, okay, next week, what do they have for me? And consistency is something very important here. Because if you stop right now this week, we're not gonna host an AMA because we're here, in Austin, organizing this, like, crazy event. But on the other side, we're here.
Nacho Pujol [00:15:47]:
Like, we're gonna get a lot of content like with you guys, which is gonna be shared with the community after. So they are gonna appreciate this, next week and after, as they see that we're actually, doing stuff and creating content and really investing our time on providing actual value.
Richard Carthon [00:16:04]:
Absolutely. The consistency is key and also continues to show up in new ways and and keep in mind different community members with new ways to be involved that are exciting. Tonight is exciting. This event is exciting. For all those who are listening and couldn't be a part of this, how can they connect with Laos and learn more and become part of this amazing community?
Nacho Pujol [00:16:22]:
Yeah. So, the best way to connect with us is to join our Discord. Join our Twitter. It's atlovesnetwork and also joined our Telegram. Atlovesnetwork as Kelley. That's where we're most active. And again, we're creating these events even though you didn't manage to come here. We're creating these events to attract and also, to connect with other builders, to add more utility and and add projects to the network, which at the end, long term is gonna, like, build more trust to the entire ecosystem and the entire network.
Nacho Pujol [00:16:56]:
So by joining our network and showing your support, that's already, like, good enough to help to also spread the word and help, bring more people in.
Richard Carthon [00:17:05]:
Absolutely. Well, Nacho, great talking to you. Everyone watching, make sure you come and join this amazing Laos community. Thank you. Hey, everybody. Richard with Edge Of Here, and I'm now here with Gerard, who's head of products working on a lot of amazing things. And the first one I wanna talk about is the chain itself. So tell us a little bit about what you've been building with this chain and how it's been evolving.
Gerard Colomer [00:17:25]:
Yes. Sure. So we started back in November of 2023 when we launched our test NFT. And on that, we have been able to start experimenting, start showcasing the people that actually the technology is already there. And you can already do everything that we will discuss probably later on. And then about a month ago, we finally got our slot within the Polkadotica system that will be unlocked on the 3rd July. And 1 week after that, we will be doing our THE event. So 11th July, we'll be going live
Richard Carthon [00:17:57]:
in mainnet. Super exciting. A lot of work goes into getting to this point, which then brings us to our then token after the TGE. So tell us about the token. What's the utility of it? Like, how does it go back into the LAOS network?
Gerard Colomer [00:18:09]:
Yeah. So basically, the LAOS token is a native token of the LAOS network as it is. It has mainly the utility to use the EVM transactions that you would with any regular chain. You can also stake and use it for governance. On top of that, we have the minting transactions that are specific, from Laos that allows you to mint assets in any other chain AI, paying with the transaction in Laos with the token. And this is one of the main differentiation factors that we have with this token.
Richard Carthon [00:18:42]:
Which is really cool, Matt. And just spoke with quite a few different people on the team. Tony was kinda breaking down, like, the technical piece of AI, like, how it all works together, how it all seamlessly pieces together. But, you know, some of the things that people initially go to is like, okay, well, walk us through some of those use cases. Like, what are the different use cases that this could reapply?
Gerard Colomer [00:18:58]:
Yeah, definitely. So the first use case that comes to mind maybe is just collectibles, NFT collectibles. And definitely, Laos can do that. But I think that it can do many more things apart from that. You can extract it to gaming. So for just having less, gas fees that you would in any other way, but even having different use cases that are not possible as of now because of the throughput limitations that you have on the ecosystems and so on and so forth. And apart from that, there are even use cases that we're not even aware of before, such as real world assets for instance. Emitting invoices on chain, or other types of, different types of assets that you want to have tokenized.
Gerard Colomer [00:19:41]:
This can be possible now with a fraction of a cost and a throughput that was not available before for those chains. For sure.
Richard Carthon [00:19:48]:
Like, one of the things that I think came up that I might immediately go to didn't think of, which is so useful, like a music catalog. Being able to take that real world asset, get an entire thing from, like, a of or or whatnot from all these different places, be able to bring that to blockchain very quickly, and do it cheaply. Because right NFT, if you were to try to do that on Ethereum, it would be so expensive and so slow. Exactly. So as
Gerard Colomer [00:20:13]:
Now, I believe that as a developer, you can do many things, but you always have to compromise between the liquidity that the chain has. Usually, the higher liquidity, the more mature the ecosystem. Usually, the lower the number of TPSs that you can do, and having a high throughput system with lower liquidity. Right? I believe that with Laos, you can have the best of worlds. And this is what we are trying to convey here that people can say, hey. Yes. I can have the high throughput that Laos allows me to have. I can have the low minting fees that I have on Laos, while having the higher liquidity that I can have on Ethereum, Arbitrum, Polygon, or some of those other chains.
Gerard Colomer [00:20:53]:
And my users don't need to know that even LAWS exists. Right?
Richard Carthon [00:20:56]:
Right. It's all seamlessly happening in the background. And getting back to the real world use cases, we're here at Real World. We're at this amazing event Laos is putting on, and we're gonna get to see that tonight. So walk us through, like, what people are gonna be able to do tonight and how y'all are able to to put this together so people can see
Gerard Colomer [00:21:10]:
how the actual product works. Exactly. So what we wanted to showcase is that, actually, this is not just something that you say, but that we can actually show it. Right? So in today's event, there are many different mini games and people will be earning points. The nice thing is that for each point, an actual asset will be minted on Ethereum for that user. So at the end of the night, probably you will have 100 of assets minted on Ethereum for you. And we will also have a leader board where we could see all the potential Ethan that has been saved using Lauz instead of minting natively there. So I think it's a nice way to showcase that this is not, something that will be possible in the future.
Gerard Colomer [00:21:48]:
Something that's already
Richard Carthon [00:21:48]:
done right now. Exactly. That's really exciting. I'm excited to see it tonight. Gerard, pleasure speaking with you. Look forward to all the things that are coming out soon.
Gerard Colomer [00:21:55]:
Here. Pleasure. Thank you.
Richard Carthon [00:21:57]:
What's up, everybody? Richard from Edge of NFT here. We are at the Laos network event, and I have Steffy with me who works on all kinds of amazing things with the special route community. The reason that we are here today for this event, Jeff helped to organize all of this. So, Steffi, give us just a taste and a preview of what's happening AI, what are you looking forward to, and we'll start there.
Stefania Asis [00:22:19]:
Okay. Great. Thank you, Richard. And, well, here we are in our side event here in Austin, Texas, and we are very happy to host this side event with NEER and Polkadot Play. And the idea is to get together with the community in real life, not just online. And, yeah, so people can have a good time and enjoy and play some games, and they can also get points. So they are going to get the assets and then, I don't know, some Kriger on that stuff. So we are very happy to be here today.
Richard Carthon [00:22:46]:
Yeah. I'm excited to be here too. I'm excited for the games just to and to see it happen in real time. Josh, the fact that all of the different fees are gonna be super cheap to be able to see what happens in real AI. Because I've gone to some other events where networks have tried to display and, the latency becomes a problem. Things kinda go with some Richard. But from my understanding of, like, how all of this is tested, it should be pretty seamless and pretty smooth. So I'm really excited to see that.
Richard Carthon [00:23:11]:
For your community that not only is gonna be here, of course, they're virtual, obviously, they're not gonna be able to see this in real time, but what are some different ways that they are able to continue to participate? You know, speaking, I learned about a lot of different AMAs, and you also have several other things that you do virtually, for these types of cool experiences. But how can the community continue to be a part of the
Stefania Asis [00:23:34]:
things you need? So we are trying also, like, to build our community online so people can join Twitter, Discord. Those are the main, like, platforms also Telegram. And, yeah, we are trying to host AMAs, I don't know, different spaces where we can get to know what the community thinks, what they want, and try to give them what they want. The idea with this event, it's we try to gamify, like, the process. So people can play the games, win assets, and just see how easy it's using Liao's just to mint assets all the time and in an easy way and, I don't know, like playing games. So they are going to be able to see that what we are saying, it's real, and they don't have, like, to be on a computer. You know? They can play games. They will see how we do it, and that's it.
Stefania Asis [00:24:15]:
So it's very easy. So I think it's a good way of showing the world what we are doing.
Richard Carthon [00:24:19]:
I think so too. And, you know, like you said, we're in Austin, Texas. We're at consensus. A lot of events that you could choose to do this at.
Stefania Asis [00:24:27]:
Why here? Why consensus? Well, I think because it's one of the main events, like, for the communities that we want. So, yeah, I I don't know. We were thinking about others, but I think, like, what we were planning, like, we had a lot of things going on, like, with the auction and all that stuff. So we decided, okay. Let's go for one of the main events that we really want, and let's Josh go for all in Austin. So we are very happy to be here.
Richard Carthon [00:24:51]:
Yeah. Well, I'm excited to be here with you. Of course, people can follow you and do all the different things with LAWS Network. But what is the alpha on community stuff that people can be doing right now to potentially be able to participate in stuff like this in the future?
Stefania Asis [00:25:06]:
Like, to come to our NFT. Okay. Just follow us and be updated. Like, we don't know if we are going to do more side events. We hope, yes, in the future, AI, this year or whatever. But, yeah, just stay tuned. As Nacho says, stay tuned, and we will let people know how to participate in the events that we will be hosting.
Richard Carthon [00:25:23]:
Okay. Well, perfect. Well, Stephie, glad you could be part of this. I'm excited for tonight and look forward to next Christmas.
Stefania Asis [00:25:28]:
Thank you very much, Richard. Alright.
Richard Carthon [00:25:29]:
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Richard Carthon [00:26:00]:
Alright. What's up, everybody? Richard from Edge of NFT here at the Laos Network event, and I have the pleasure of speaking with Zach, who is one of the many developers who are building here on Laos Network. And, Zach, I know that you have a Hacker House going on out here right now. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Zach (Developer) [00:26:15]:
Yeah. So we're hosting an on chain gaming HackerHouse. And, so we're just building a whole bunch of games because we think games are a really good way to onboard people into web 3. And, you know, if you're building a game, the first thing to do if you're considering an NFT is to look into Laos.
Richard Carthon [00:26:33]:
I mean, after everything I've learned today, Laos is doing things in a revolutionary way that is helping steps to be shrunk to less and to be way more cost effective. And so with building games on that, like, how is that translating over into that side of things?
Zach (Developer) [00:26:48]:
So whenever it comes to building games, the web 2 audience is really excited about NFTs. They wanted their assets from one game to be transferable to a different game to a different game to a different game, And that's that's really not what NFTs turned out to be. And so, the reason why I kind of appreciate what Last Network is trying to do is not only can you bridge these NFTs to almost any network, but these NFTs can represent in game, utility, and they can be applied to a whole bunch of different games. I wish I had a lot of better terminology, but it's just the thought of the game that we're building could be applied to almost all the NFTs within our game, and could be applied to almost every other game within the house. And that's something that just grabs people. We have a game development studio that's staying at our house, or the founder of a game development studio. Only web 2 dev. And he just kind of was there to help us, to encourage us, build games, and make sure that our games made sense.
Zach (Developer) [00:27:49]:
And he's actually here at this event just because he read through Louse's NFT, and it was exactly what game developers are looking for.
Richard Carthon [00:27:58]:
That's exciting, man. That interoperability piece is definitely something that gravitates a lot of people who are building and just users, to opportunities like BLaost. But the fact that you're bringing in web 2 builders and they're they're they're seeing what's happening, they're like, I wanna be a part of this. I wanna learn more and be a part of the Hacker House. That's really incredible. And I know that you have a lot of various hackers that are here with you. What's that experience been like to be in the house and building right now? So building in the
Zach (Developer) [00:28:24]:
The house is honestly really fun. I've hosted a lot of different hackathons and a lot of different hacker houses. I mainly focus on recruiting and managing the teams to make sure that they can deliver the best product within the amount of time given. And for the house itself, it's amazing. Today, we ran into a problem on one side of the house. It was one of our teams that was tokenizing some assets, and we didn't know whether to extend the metadata or or or NFT. And we just grabbed the entire rest of the Hacker House, and we all brainstormed together. And it went from 4 people brainstorming to 20 people brainstorming altogether.
Zach (Developer) [00:29:04]:
And it's just that amazing community vibe. We love it.
Richard Carthon [00:29:07]:
That's incredible, man. Amazing problem solving skills. And I guess the real question I wanna conclude here is why Laos? Obviously, there's a lot of different places you could go. What gravitated you towards it, and what's making you stay?
Zach (Developer) [00:29:21]:
So there's a lot of things that, in my opinion, are gravitating me towards Laos. First of all, their documentation is to to to to say it Eathan. And we were able to read through their examples and deploy our own NFT within a matter of 10 minutes. And that's something that almost no blockchain can say that they're so easy to use that it takes any, like, just a small period of time to actually utilize it and deploy something on main NFT and have it tradable and and have it physical. So that was one of the aspects. Another aspect was Tony himself. He pitched Laos Network in a really amazing way to where game developers like myself could understand. And if you could really see the utility and you could see the reason why they built Laos the way that they built it.
Zach (Developer) [00:30:08]:
Because it is exactly what game developers wanted in 2017 whenever NFTs were started, you know, started being issued and were Janney. So they really listened to the broader audience and implemented what exactly everyone's been asking for. But for this specific hackathon, we have to build our game in EVM, and a lot of the sponsors aren't very EVM focused. So we're using Laoz to mint our NFT on Polygon or sorry, on Polkadot and then bridge it to EVM chains. And that's something that's almost insane. And from a developer standpoint, we're saving so much time just by using LAOS for this hackathon because we don't have to bridge that asset. It's we who don't have to mint that asset. We're just using Laos for all of those things.
Zach (Developer) [00:30:56]:
It's really cool.
Richard Carthon [00:30:58]:
That's really awesome, man. And, you know, obviously, you can hear the passion, from your response and everything with it. And I agree, just how simple they've been able to make everything. And, obviously, documentation helps a lot because you can have clear steps by steps on how you can keep moving. But then, of course, being in a community like a hacker house where you can share ideas, think through concepts, and build things faster is always a really cool opportunity. So I appreciate you spending some time with us talking about your experience.
Zach (Developer) [00:31:25]:
Thank you for having me, man. It's more than amazing. Exactly.
Richard Carthon [00:31:28]:
Hey, everybody. Richard here from Edge of NFT, and we're here at the Laos Network of. And we are talking to another developer who's doing amazing things on the Laos Network. We have Teja. Pleasure to meet you. Glad you could be out here. How's your experience been with the HackerHouse so far?
Teja [00:31:41]:
Hey, guys. So far, the flight was terribly bad. But after I landed in the house, I slept peacefully. And then the morning I woke up, I started to quote. It was an amazing experience. hackers I'm starting to building on, AI, like, like, like,
Richard Carthon [00:32:00]:
like, loud as well. That's great. Well, sorry that your flight was a little rough, but Oh, yeah. Glad you're gonna wake up and get after it. So, of course, now we're here at the Laos Network event downtown, Austin. And, how's it been with getting to meet some of the various people from all over and and and just being a part of the various games and everything else going on?
Teja [00:32:20]:
It was amazing. AI, myself, a big gamer. I do play a lot of, like, outdoor games, but playing these games was challenging. allowed to play them. The last team of the games was, like, greeting. They welcomed our group as well to play. They even motivated us to, like, like, get some drinks and, like, play or, like, win prizes as well. So what's so good? I'm in
Richard Carthon [00:32:41]:
the leaderboard as well. Yeah. Oh, cool, man. Well, you know, you're here at the NFT, you're gonna do the hacker house, and you could be building on any type of network, but you're choosing to build on a mouse. Did you choose to start building on mouse?
Teja [00:32:53]:
That's a good question. The only reason and the important reason for building a LAOS source is a bridgeless minting of the NFTs. Let's say let's say, I wanna, like, mint NFT NFT. I couldn't do it. But at a loss, I could definitely do it. We'll pay the gas fees using, like, any token. Yeah. That's the main reason.
Richard Carthon [00:33:15]:
No. That's great.
Teja [00:33:16]:
Like And that's the only reason, like, I'm bullish on Laos as well.
Richard Carthon [00:33:20]:
Yeah. That's awesome. So for all those who are listening, for the Janney developers who are considering coming over to Laos, of course, the cheap and slash free being able to mitts. Like, what are some of the other reasons why someone would choose to decide to come and build?
Teja [00:33:37]:
The developers are so welcoming. So like if you're getting so, like if you get any problem or if you get stuck with any code, the team is out there to help you. They're gonna do, like, one on one calls at NFT time you want. That's one thing that all of the teams are doing. And the dog owners look pretty good as well. That's awesome. Hey.
Richard Carthon [00:33:56]:
Well, definitely appreciate your time. Thank you for sharing it with us, and, look forward to helping you enjoy the rest of your time here.
Teja [00:34:01]:
Thanks, Richard. See you around.
Richard Carthon [00:34:02]:
Alright. Pleasure. Everybody, Richard from Edge of NFT here, and I'm with another developer here on the last network. We have Subayyil. I wanna start with just asking, like, I know you're here for the Hacker House and a lot of different things going on. Like, how's your experience been so far?
Subayyil [00:34:16]:
So far, it's been amazing. Obviously, when there's, like, so many, intelligent minds under one roof, great things happen. Right. So that's what's happening right now. It's just the first day, and there's 2 more days to go.
Richard Carthon [00:34:32]:
So I'm pretty hyped out about what we're building out. It's excellent, man. Well, you know, we're here in Austin, Texas. We have this event going on at the Laos Network and a lot of different various games and just a cool environment. Like, what's the experience around this particular event been so far?
Subayel [00:34:47]:
So this event has a lot of people from different perspectives. So it's good that I actually came out of the hacker house for a bit. So right now we came here with the team and we started to mingle around with different people with different backgrounds. And it just removes you out of your shell so you can think from different perspectives. So I'm really grateful for that. I got to meet some very, very bright minds here. So appreciate that.
Richard Carthon [00:35:15]:
That is great. Laos brings together a lot of people from all over the world, different perspectives and brilliant ways of thinking.
Subayel [00:35:23]:
And it met someone with, sorry. Josh met someone within the Kelley care space. Wow. And someone in, shared mobility. Yeah. So it's really good to, like, exchange these ideas, and everybody's trying to build something, you know, on the Laos network. So it's a good opportunity to learn, like, what's the capabilities of it. Oh, definitely.
Subayel [00:35:43]:
And, I
Richard Carthon [00:35:44]:
I guess as we wrap up here, man, just why Laos? Right? There's a lot of places you could be building. Like, why are you choosing to build on top of Laos Network? And for developers out there that are listening, why would they be encouraged to want to come and be part of this?
Subayel [00:35:57]:
Well, so far, the support that we're getting from Laos Network is amazing. And that's the best thing. For every developer, if there's support out there, we can keep progressing forward. And so far, the mentors that we found here, they're top notch. So I would highly recommend building with Laos..
Richard Carthon [00:36:21]:
Excellent. Well, appreciate your time today, and I'm glad you could be a part of this, man. Thank you. Alright. Thank you. Alright. Hey, everybody. Richard Carthon here with Edge of NFT, at the Laos of.
Richard Carthon [00:36:30]:
And I'm talking to another developer, Tidjis, who is building on the Laos network. Tell me a little bit about your experience and how the HackerHouse has been going.
Tidjis [00:36:38]:
It's been pretty good. This is actually my first, web 3 at a time that I'm attending. So I have experience with software engineering, and I'm kinda new to blockchain. So I've been researching different blockchains and this is another game that we are building. It's an Ethereum based game. It's based on AI, which is like a pretty famous game. So we're building an on chain version of it. So the problem at hand is, like, so the idea that we have come up for the hackathon is, like, getting the capturing a particular game state and then minting it to an NFT so that we get a good so that we could, one player could actually sell that NEFT to other players.
Tidjis [00:37:25]:
And the other players can, access that instance of
Richard Carthon [00:37:28]:
the game and continue playing. That's awesome. NFT is pretty hard challenging, things to overcome. So how is how's that experience been so far?
Tidjis [00:37:36]:
I think the Laos, we went to a Carthon that we came across, the Laos network, and I think it's a pretty good solution to our problem. It offers a good, environment to, like, develop on.
Richard Carthon [00:37:49]:
And yeah. That's great. And, of course, now we're here at the events, which are showcasing some different games and how networks is, being used in real time. How's your experience been here
Tidjis [00:38:00]:
So far? It's been very good, getting to meet a lot of like minded people, getting to learn about, what they're building on and about their experiences. Awesome. And final question,
Richard Carthon [00:38:11]:
for for those who are thinking about potentially coming and building on Laos, why would you encourage them to
Tidjis [00:38:16]:
do so? I would say it's the flexibility that allows offers, in integrating different languages, AI, with different blockchains. So you could be working on Ethereum, and you could easily create NFTs using LAWS.
Richard Carthon [00:38:33]:
Perfect. Well, really appreciate your time, and thanks
Gerard Colomer [00:38:35]:
for coming out. Thank you, Luis.
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Richard Carthon [00:39:05]:
Hey, everybody. Richard with Edge Of here, and I'm here with Luisa, who is a proud community member of Laos Network. I'm glad you could be here. We're here in Austin, Texas at the Laos Network NFT. How's your experience been so far?
Luisa [00:39:16]:
It's been great. I love seeing all the people. This is a cool event. There are so many, like, things going on. It's extreme, it's cool.
Richard Carthon [00:39:24]:
Yeah. It's awesome. And, you know, we got lucky with being able to find a community leader here that, obviously Josh, is part of the community. I've been doing a lot for what's been going on. Like, what's been your experience within the Laos network community so far?
Luisa [00:39:37]:
Yeah. I love it. I think it's just starting but there's a super strong core foundation. There are people defending each other, going, like discussing the latest hack. I think it's a super strong sign of a healthy community.
Richard Carthon [00:39:51]:
I think so too. And it's cool that you have such open dialogue and are able to have candid conversations, and allow for people to freely express themselves. What do you think has been some of the charm of being part of this community and seeing it grow over the last, you know, several years?
Luisa [00:40:07]:
I think it's just very exciting to be still at the early stage of a major technology push. You feel like you're part of a secret thing and you feel like you really have a chance to kinda give feedback and I wanna do this, I wanna do that. I think that's a part of the community which is what you want to be proactively part of and see the difference it makes which I feel like a lot of feedback was taken into consideration. So it's just to see it grow and like to grow along with it as well.
Richard Carthon [00:40:35]:
Definitely. And you know, obviously you could be part of any community that you want to be, but you choose to be part of Laos. What is it about Laos that has really resonated with you and made you want to continue to be part of the community and help it grow?
Luisa [00:40:47]:
I think it's the mission. And it's also around like the tech technology part. We are looking for constant solutions about how to build games in a more Web 3 way. But doesn't really offend the Web 2 audience. And I feel like what's being promised in Laos is extremely promising. Yeah. So I'm just excited to just, like, get it going and try to apply using it.
Richard Carthon [00:41:12]:
Yeah. That's great. And, being able to be part of that strong community and a lot of things going on, obviously, every once in a while in AI, you get rewarded by, you know, these relevance. Right? And so with coming to this, obviously, they have some different, like, games going on. That's right. and, golf and a bunch of other stuff. What's been your favorite game that you played out here?
Luisa [00:41:31]:
The basketball one. It was really hard apparently, but, you know, I'm gonna try it again. Hopefully, I score a higher point.
Richard Carthon [00:41:38]:
Yeah. You're gonna crest it. And, you know, obviously, being a part of this and and and being able to meet a lot of the team in person, like, how's it been to be able to meet a lot of the community in person?
Luisa [00:41:47]:
Yeah. So I've actually met Alan and Nacho, almost across the street this year. So it's super kind of like seeing the person behind, like because we usually talk on Discord. And yeah. So I'm really happy to see them in person. It's just exciting when you can put a face with your name.
Richard Carthon [00:42:08]:
Oh, definitely. And of course, being a part of this, there's a lot of things that are still coming with Lao. So that's continuing to make it even better. So for people that are listening and are on the fence of, like, why or why not would I wanna be part of this community? Why would you encourage them to do so?
Luisa [00:42:21]:
Because you can make a difference and the technology is very cool. And if you are thinking about building kind of like a game and you're thinking about adding just a little bit of web 3, but you don't want any kind of AI, you don't want to offend your web 2 users, AI, you should check out Laos. I think there's a lot of technology that you can kind of put into a text stack and it's gonna make life so much easier if you want to experiment in that area.
Richard Carthon [00:42:46]:
Awesome. Well, I really appreciate your time. Thanks for sharing that with us, and hope you enjoy this evening.
Luisa [00:42:50]:
Thank you very much.
Richard Carthon [00:42:51]:
Hey, everyone. Richard from Edge of NFT here, and I'm speaking with another amazing person that has come out to the Laos network event tonight that is really focused on RWAs. And today's event was titled RWAs, and this is now the time that we could talk a little bit more about it. So I'm sure that attracted you to this. So I just wanna NFT your perspective on, like, what are the RWAs that are happening right now, and how have you seen that to this event tonight?
SPEAKER X [00:43:17]:
I think when everybody talks about crypto growing up and expanding from something beyond what people currently use it for, that's really what RWA is. And right now it's like stuff putting assets on chains that typically have been hard to transact with in the real world. But I think the vast majority of things, you look at this $100,000,000,000,000 market, honestly, of things that can be done better on block chains. And that's really what we should as an industry be striving to do is move this stuff on a chain where we know that we can trade these things easier. We can use it as collateral. We can use these applications. And that's AI, like RWA space in general and the fact that we can now build applications on top of it that make it so that people actually wanna tokenize these things as society.
Richard Carthon [00:44:17]:
I agree, man. And NFT, Vic, I mean, you chose to come here as a consensus and be part of this. Where did you come from?
SPEAKER X [00:44:24]:
From Miami.
Richard Carthon [00:44:25]:
Awesome, man. So flying in from Miami, and, obviously, this is, day 1 of consensus. A lot more to go. But you chose to be here at, Louses event. How's the experience been so far? It's been awesome.
SPEAKER X [00:44:40]:
Have always wanted to interact with more people from the RWA community and people that are building infrastructure to support it. And I feel that the industry is moving in the right direction to create that so that we can properly support people in the next, you know, year who want to tokenize assets. And I think that we're still a ways away as an industry from being able to do that, but stuff like this makes me optimistic that we're going in the right direction.
Richard Carthon [00:45:10]:
I think so too. There's a lot of builders. There's a lot of people who are looking for collaboration, and, obviously, you're here as one of those people. So we appreciate you being here. And so guess as a final thing, like, what is something that you're looking forward to while being here, for all of this event? Yeah. That's what I'm doing. So what AI
SPEAKER X [00:45:31]:
The actual market for tokenized assets is really big. Right? It's unfathomable and something that people in crypto think that we can just get overnight. I think there's one thing I would say is, like, we have to focus on things that are actually better on blockchains. I think those things are things like, funds, investment funds. Like, you see BlackRock doing those things right now. People doing that with real estate. But I think we just, like, need focus. And if we all as an industry focus on things that we know will be accepted on the chain, then we'll achieve a lot of success, and get the ball rolling.
SPEAKER X [00:46:14]:
And that's it. Focus. Absolutely.
Richard Carthon [00:46:16]:
Well, definitely a lot of that focus. You're here to bring it. Vic, we appreciate you being here tonight and look forward to continuing to be part of the LOS network. Appreciate it.
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